New PC. Any advice? - part II

Hi all

Like Hanni I want to buy a new PC. Below is two configurations that i have in my mind. the first one (and cheeper one) is the AMD solution and the second one is a Intel Core I5 based system.
Pls help me with this choice. I want to buy a PC that I can use it for a couple of years.

1) Phenom II X4 Quad 2.6Ghz-640GB 3GBDDR2 ATI HD4850[/b]

Procesor: AMD Phenom X4
Frecventa procesor (MHz): 2.6Ghz
Cache L2 (KB): 2MB cache
CPU Socket: AM3
FSB (MHz): 4MB cache (L3)
Tip procesor: 810 Quad Core
Placa de baza: Asrock - ATI CROSSFIRE
Chipset: AM3
Audio: Sunet redat pe 8 canale (7.1) High-Definition
Retea: Da
Porturi: 4xDDRII800 Dual Channel, 3xPCI, 1xPCI-E (x16), 1xPCI-E (x1), GLAN, ATX, 2xSATA, 4xSATA II, 2xeSATA II, RAID 0,1, 2xUSB2.0, ALIVEXFIRE-ESATA2

Chipset video: ATI Radeon
Capacitate memorie video (MB): 1024MB GDDR3 (256bit)
Tip dedicata
Video: ATI Radeon HD4850 iCooler IV (Full HD 1080p), HDMI, HDCP, Platinum EDITION

Memorie (MB): 3072
Tip memorie: DDR2

Capacitate HDD: 640
Interfata HDD: SATA II
FDD: Nu
Buffer (MB): 16
Viteza de rotatie (rpm): 7200

Carcasa: Tower ATX alimentare SATA, 3 bay, silver&black, USB, MT375
Putere sursa (W): 450

2) Intel i5 4GB DDR3 1TB GeForce GTX 275

Procesor: Intel Core i5
Frecventa procesor (MHz): 2,66(Ghz)
Cache L2 (KB): 8 (MB)
CPU Socket: 1156
FSB (MHz): 2.5 GT/s
Tehnologie de fabricatie (microni): 45
Tip procesor: i5

Placa de baza: AsRock
Chipset: 1156
Audio: 8CH - HD
Retea: Da
Porturi: Intel P55, Skt 1156, QPI up to 6400MT/s, 4*DDR3 2400+(OC) DualCh max 16GB, 1*Pciex2.0/1*Pciex16/3*PCiex1/2*PCI CrossfireX, 8CH HD AUDIO, Gigabit LAN, 1*ATA, 4 *SATAII, RAID (RAID 0,RAID 1, RAID 10, RAID 5 and Intel Matrix Storage),NCQ, AHCI and Hot

Chipset video: GeForce GTX 275
Capacitate memorie video (MB): 896MB DDR3 448bit
Tip dedicata
Video: 633 MHz 896MB DDR3 2268MHz, 448bit Dual Dual-Link DVI DirectX 10, NVIDIA PhysX, CUDA, Tri-SLI, Hybrid SLI, racire activa, monitorizare hardware, adaptor DVI-VGA, DVI-HD, cablu SPDIF PCI-E 16X 2.

Memorie (MB): 4096
Tip memorie: DDR3
Capacitate maxima memorie RAM (MB): 16GB DDR3
Frecventa memorie (MHz): 1333 (Mhz)
Module Memorie Standard: 2
Sloturi memorie: 4 (Dual Ch - 16 GB DD3)

Capacitate HDD: 1000
Interfata HDD: SATA 2
7200rpm, 16MB PMR Spinpoint F DT Series

Unitati citire/scriere: 22xDVDRW Black

Carcasa: Carcasa RAIDMAX
Putere sursa (W): 650W

Thnx.
Ady.ro


PS - Post with number 100

I'm not a specialist, so the best tip I can give: the choice depends a lot on how much you want to spend.
However, I find it strange that the first setup still has DDR2 memory. On the long term, it will become rare and more expensive, so I would suggest DDR3 (but I don't know if it is supported). Further, I would take 4GB memory. If you want to play some new games on windows vista/7, I think 4 GB is really useful. But you can only fully use the 4GB if you have a 64 bit windows.

I'm still not completely decided about what I want, but I want to order this week. I started with a high budget around September, I lowered it a lot in December, and now it's increasing again (and quickly )

I want to buy something not very expensive but i'm looking for something that I will be able to upgrade during time. I'm looking for a mobo that suports I7 (eventualy I9 - 1366 socket?) CPU because in the future I want to build a better PC starting from what I buy now.
For the moment i found this two configurations:
- http://www.prostore.ro/sisteme_desktop/calculator-core-i5-2gb-500gb-hdd-p41402.html - arround 600 euros
- http://www.cel.ro/calculatoare-desktop/diaxxa-gaming-intel-i5-4gb-ddr3-1tb-geforce-gtx-275-l/ - arround 790 euros


but this is the one i would like to buy but is well over my budget:
- http://www.prostore.ro/sisteme_desktop/calculator-intel-core-i7-extreme-975-12-gb-ram-2-tb-hdd-2x-gtx-295-p41256.html
this system costs arround 3320 euro (!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Anyway thnx allot Hanni for your advice. I give up the DDR2 solution.

Ady.ro

Wow, the last one is really an extreme one

I wouldn't buy the first one, that's only 2 GB ram and I doubt about some components. I think the second one is a lot better and upgradeable. It has a better graphics card and those spinpoint hdd's are also very good (is it the F1 or F3 series?). Of course, the first 2 don't support the 1366 socket. So the only core i7 you can take, is the 860 and 870.
But I wonder why you would need the i9, coz at the moment games don't even fully use the 8 virtual cores of the core i7's. So that's why I'm gonna buy the core i7 860 (socket 1156).

Hi all
I want to buy a video card for my pc. At the moment I have onboard video based on Intel G31 processor. The Mb is Gygabyte G31M-ES2L and I don't know what is compatibile. I want a Nvidia based video procesor. Some reviews pointed the 9800 GT but i found this. Is it ok for my MB?
TY
Ady

I think it is possible because the card requires a PCI-e line and that is supported by your mb. But be sure the pci-e x16 lane is free, coz that is the fastest one.
Further you also have to check your power supply, because this card will require a lot more power than the onboard video card.

Thank You Hannibal m8. I'll let you know my choice when I'll buy that video card.
Ady

Hey Ady ... Just upgraded my pc too (on abudget) .Got me a Gigabyte GA-MA785GT-UD3H supports am3 , AMD Phenom ll x2 550 Black Edition 3,100 MHz , 4 Gb of ram (G-Skill) DDR3 , OCZ Stealthpower 750 w Psu , ATI HD5750 1Gb graphics card . All for around 520 euro's .With the dual core black edition and that motherboard there is a chance of unlocking a further 2 cores so making a dual core processor effectively into a quad core (does not work on all processors about 25/30 % success rate ) .Unfortunately mine wont unlock the other 2 cores ,still happy tho , will run all of the new games without ant problems . Just a little info to help if I can .

Ian

Hi all

First of all wish you a happy new year and fulfillment of all desires, good health to you and your families.

Thnx Wutchie for your advice and your good intentions.
Firs of all I managed to set the final budget for may new video card (the most importatnt step to refine searching). The final budget is around 105 euros. I started reading a lot of review's for the videocards that i can afford.
Finalists were ATI Radeon 5750 and Nvidia GTS 450. Both support DX11 Crossfire/SLI, 1024md, GDDR5, similar speeds and frequencies, 128 bits. The only difference between them is the Open GL, 4.0 for Nvidia and 3.2 for ATI.
Final question: which of the two do you think is better?
Next week I want to give the order for the video card and I would also like to know your opinion.

Here is a link for that two videocards: Radeon HD 5750 vs GTS 450.
TYVM m8's
Ady.ro

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System:
Procesor - Intel E 5400 Dual Core @2.7GHz
MB - Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2L
RAM - 2x1GB DDR2
HDD - Western Digital Caviar Blue, 500 GB
Case - Delux Middletower 3 bay silver and black MT302
PSU - Fortron BlueStorm II 500W
Video - onboard integrated into the north bridge Intel G31 Express Chipset

Hi all
I ordered a Gainward GTS 450, 1024 MB. Tomorow it should come. Can't wait....
Ady

It'here, it's mounted, it's installed and it's working just fine!!!!

Ady.

Thank You Hannibal!