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PostSubject: SVT40 Idea   Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:27 am

hi all..

i decide to make this post to ask if its possible to remove the SVT 40 from the server becouse its getting quiet annoying ppl using this gun as a machine gun...

if they start shooting at you, you cant do anything, you cand move and even stick your head out!!! lol

there is no skills by using this gun...

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PostSubject: Re: SVT40 Idea   Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:35 am

yes it's a post i wanted to do for a while now , and i don''t know if am the only one ,but whenever an svt shoots, i notice a lag in the server ...

and if the ping is variable , for example an svt user with a 20-80 ping , against a user of 100+ ping , shoots like a thomson instead of a sniper rifle

I would also kindly ask the admins to think about this subject , and perhaps a vote between the members of S|G and the regulars , to keep it or not..

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PostSubject: Re: SVT40 Idea   Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:01 am

for me its ok wich way we go with this rifle....because i don't use it.

for me i have no problem with players that use that gun.....but maybe because i have almost the lowest ping on the ciruit at the SG server.

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PostSubject: Re: SVT40 Idea   Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:28 am

that has a gun shot very fast, but my opinion is not accurate with it, because it has a lot to my retreat and that's an advantage, because if you're fast when the enemy has that setback and shoot you and if you're more skilled even kill it before.

My opinion is:

SVT 40 = Quick, but not accurate (it has a long decline)


Each rifle is adapted to the style of play of each player and their abilities.

for me the best is the KAR98 K shoot

another thing is the ping, but I think if you have a big difference ping no matter what weapon you have, there will be killed before you ... study agree


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PostSubject: Re: SVT40 Idea   Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:40 am

I don't like the SVT either. I never use it and the noise is horrible Smile
I also hate it when they use it to shoot constantly at the same spot, and if you are accidently at that spot, then it is very hard to kill them (and not being killed). But I've learnt to live with it Wink
Like Crissy said, the gun is hard to use for moving targets, so when someone uses it to dance with me, he / she is definitely dead Twisted Evil

I think there are too many players that use the gun, so "just get rid of it" is imho not an option.
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PostSubject: Re: SVT40 Idea   Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:21 am

I'd like to stick my euro's worth in if i may Razz ..... I agree with Vete and Mani, its a horrible weapon to come up against when its being used as a machine gun ... If used like that ... where is the skill ??? My opinion is that the game should be a test of skill and not a case of how many bullets you can fire in a given direction . But then thats my opinion, and i know that the svt is a part of the game so i have to agree with Hanni too ...


Ian
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The recoil thing ... i believe that there is a mod to reduce the recoil of the svt and the g43 (may be wrong but i'm sure that when i used to use the g43 (when i first started playing) the recoil was less than when i use it now )

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PostSubject: Re: SVT40 Idea   Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:01 pm

The fast firing Sniper Rifles had their recoil increased (G43 and SVT) as a "fix" to them being faster than the other Snipers. Also their zoom distance was decreased, so you actually have to have a better eye to get the same shots off with them (If you don't use them like a MG). I personally use the G43, and in deeper maps it does strain my eyes to look way into the distance, but I've gotten used to it.

Personally I never like the SVT myself, but it is a part of the game, and I know a lot of people that do like it. However if enough people want to have it adjusted again, it could always get more of a kick, or just slow down the firing so it can't be used as a zoomed machine gun. I don't think removing it entirely would make the game better in any way, but we could always adjust it and see what people think.

What say you folks? Leave it? Adjust it? tounge

PS: I adjusted the topic name so it better suits what's being discussed.
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PostSubject: Re: SVT40 Idea   Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:09 pm

hi all its a lose lose situation for both leave it or adjust it!but if it comes down to it i vote adjust,make it slower so we get a chance to move out of that mg's way Wink
p.s a lot of users use it and stay in one spot behind walls ect and shot at one spot!it is very anoying!!!!even for my teammates in the game cause they give our spot away!
finally i would like to ask if u can juice up the kar98 ,after maniac told me about this weapon i see it to be the best for me in almost all the maps,but it lacks the springfield in power so if u can juice it it would be great!thank you all for sharing ur opinions!!!see u in the server!! cheers
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PostSubject: hmmm   Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:07 pm

I agree with Vete and Mani and wutchman, its a horrible weapon to come up against when its being used as a machine gun .....
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PostSubject: Re: SVT40 Idea   Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:02 pm

Hi all m8's !!! Smile I have 1 question: is it possible to exchange SVT40 with Enfield L42A1 ?
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PostSubject: Re: SVT40 Idea   Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:56 pm

Hi all

I rarely used SVT in the game. My weapon of choice is G43 (fast reload and 10 rounds) and KAR98 (excelent weapon).

The noise of SVT is driving me crazy and the rate of fire is realy like a MG. I agree with Mani, Vete and Wutchie.

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PostSubject: Re: SVT40 Idea   Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:43 am

if you slow down the firing speed its going too be a good idea to...
i dont have any prob too kill those guys and i think no prob to anyone who play in the server for long time but its not nice if they have a good ping couse they can use it like a machine gun...now if they use it like a sniper there is no prob...but most of them they think that they hold a thompson in their hands and dont stop firing...

when they start firing on my spot with this gun and hit me three times and dont die for me its better to kill me with a scope bazooka or throw me a granade....looooooooool Razz


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PostSubject: Re: SVT40 Idea   Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:02 am

Hi all,

Hey m8's First i agree with mani and vete and wutch. But,

I think that is way and style of playing like al who want camp and run and dance..So if we had remove it may be we lose players or make some bored in server so i think we can play with it normaly but do our best to shoot them . shoot

AND if will be a vote i will put my voice with Mani and Vete and Wutch. agree

Thx,
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PostSubject: Re: SVT40 Idea   Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:37 am

A little bit of a hornets nest here.... but i feel that in the spirit of "snipers guru" and within the game thing should be as fair to all players as possible, so when something gives a player an advantage over others it should be eliminated (unfortunately we dont all bennefit from a ping like DeZee has, nothing we can do about that Sad ) like the allied bunker issue in Omaha which has been resolved , maybe there is a way around this one without upsetting players that use this rifle too much .



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PostSubject: Re: SVT40 Idea   Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:54 am

wow it turns out to be a good discussing post Very Happy

i must agree though with HarfainX and Omar ...slowing down the rifle is a good idea , but we must also think the traffic the server has with players that use the SVT as it is....well we gave an idea...drop the ball to the admins court farty
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PostSubject: Re: SVT40 Idea   Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:35 am

i vote for a adjustment in the Svt rifle. so it can't be used as a machinegun Razz and then we can see how it works out Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: SVT40 Idea   Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:37 am

Here is my idea,

you could remove completely the semi-automatic rifles SVT and G43 and put the other two bolt-action rifles of the game Lee-Enfield and Mosin-Nagant with zoom or with scopes ( on Lee-Enfield the scope of Springfield and on Mosin -Nagant the Kar98 scope ) ,

that would be great !!! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: SVT40 Idea   Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:05 pm

The problem with using Rifles with a zoom is that their movement displacement is less than that of a sniper rifle. Even when moving and firing a rifle, it's almost always completely accurate. Snipers will throw the bullet at a different angle if you're moving and don't account for the change.

Basically using a rifle with a scope would make it require even less skill than using a semi-automatic sniper.

It's not a bad idea, but I already thought of it, and tested it. Rifles are too accurate.
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